i think they were just telling the arc what they wanted to hear.. what do you think?.
couple of interesting quotes:.
"mr o'brien, co-ordinator of the church's australian branch committee, told the commission the organisation was "open to change".. in evidence, he said the committee would consider the greater involvement of women in child sex abuse cases, clearer guidance for elders hearing allegations and better communication with victims and their families about their legal options.. mr o'brien told the commission the church did not have a redress scheme for sex abuse victims but would consider establishing one.. vincent toole, head of the church's watchtower bible and tract society, told the commission he would seek independent legal advice about the church's obligations to report child sex abuse to the authorities.. justice mcclellan asked mr toole if he understood there was a general obligation for every citizen to report crimes to the authorities.. "coming to this commission has been a wake-up call for me, i can assure you," mr toole said.. www.smh.com.au/nsw/royal-commission-jehovahs-witnesses-to-review-approach-to-sex-abuse-allegations-20150805-gis2fh.html.
Toole - "Coming to this commission has been a wake-up call for me, I can assure you..."
I bet Toole and others will be singing like canaries on the "wittless" stand if and when faced with doing some hard time over not reporting a crime. Right now they are still trying to please and protect the Governing Body but when faced with the gravity of their actions and denial and doing some prison time they will turn on the WT corporation when they see the writing on the wall so to speak.
sorry as this topic may have been covered many times but any thoughts or links to other topics on how the pro-jw websites are commenting on this.. rub a dub.
I wonder if the extreme censorship of proJW sites with the threat of DF'ng if one even speaks of something negative about the WT corporation should be brought to the Royal Commission attention to show how controlling the Governing Body is in not allowing any thing negative about the Organization to be even spoken among its members.
I think this is an important fact that they need to be made aware of in order to solve this problem with child abuse.
pray for brother jackson of the governing body!.
in todays news from australia it appears that, despite his previous declination to appear when invited, justice mcclellan from the australian royal commission on child sex abuse will officially summon brother geoffrey jackson to the stand after all.. ..... the commission was due to conclude its hearings into the jehovahs witnesses on wednesday but justice mcclellan said he will now call geoffrey jackson, a senior member of the churchs governing body in new york who is currently in australia, to appear next week.. .
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This ought to put some starch in the shorts of every GB member. Up till now they have been pretty untouchable as far as going to court and give testimony for their bad behavior. I'm sure we might see some changes in the Organization once these policy makers start getting hauled off to court, I'm thinking there might be enough evidence by these commission hearings to latter bring criminal charges in the other courts and perhaps even here in the USA home of the Governing Body.
I'm sure no matter how deluded these GBs might be they are shitting their pants right now as they see the laws are finally catching up with them and their cruel male chuavanistic asses.
i wondered when it would happen!
twice this past week, they have had the cart set up at the end of the kh property on the main road.
the two people with it were sitting about 100 feet back, in the shade of a tree.
i popped into town this morning to buy an anniversary card for mrs cofty.
it is market day on a saturday and it's tourist season so the town was very busy.
here is a picture of the scene from a year ago... two cult carts were in their favourite place being guarded by none other than one of the elders who was on my judicial committee, his wife and another jw woman in her electric disability buggy.
OMG you had them running they acted as if you were Satan in the flesh. Cart witnessing to the JW's it is almost like you got a captive audience unless they decide to run away with their fingers in their ears.
I was thinking maybe have about 2 or 3 people go to where they are cart witlessing seperately with the same subject and then meeting them as a group and talk about the same point (like the commissions public inquiry into child abuse inside the Australian congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses I'm sure GB Jackson testimony should be made known to every JW whether they want to hear it or not).
i think the governing body is so delusional to give these monthly broad cast i'm mean it is totally a show of their complete ignorance to keep broad casting their ugly mugs to the world uttering utter nonsense to be used against them in a court of law.
they can't think above the mentality of a brain dead devotee, they think they are giving a good witness in what ever they speak which indicates a severe denial and compartmentalization going on in their psyche so that they have no knowledge of when they are out right lying.
jehovahs witnesses hearing adjourned.
6 august, 2015. .
the hearing into the jehovahs witnesses has adjourned until further notice.case study 29 into the jehovahs witnessescommenced on monday 27 july 2015, inquiring into jehovah's witnesses and watchtower bible and tract society of australia ltd.further information regarding this public hearing will be announced in due course.. .
I think the Royal Commission is taking time to read it's emails that they have receive I'm sure they will take the time to read the documents more to find out why this submission is so important to keep confidential and what type of question they are going to put before GB Jackson to make sure they can get all the goods on him that they can.
I'm sure your Honor and Stewart are very happy over recent events popping up so providentially to make a good case.
All this new information that many have sent needs to be examined to make a good future cases against them where all the damming evidence is made available by this public inquiry.
i think the governing body is so delusional to give these monthly broad cast i'm mean it is totally a show of their complete ignorance to keep broad casting their ugly mugs to the world uttering utter nonsense to be used against them in a court of law.
they can't think above the mentality of a brain dead devotee, they think they are giving a good witness in what ever they speak which indicates a severe denial and compartmentalization going on in their psyche so that they have no knowledge of when they are out right lying.
if you watched the questioning of terrence o'brien by angus stewart at day 7 part 3 on youtube--thanks so much for uploading these videos--you'll see that mr. stewart puts quite clearly to brother o'brien that the jw 0rganization is a "captive organization".. he makes this reference regarding the practice of da/df'ing and shunning, which he mentions is the one thing that makes ex-jw's the most angry.
because insisting on shunning ex-members causes psychological trauma and separates people from their family, friends and their community of support; therefore, they are held captive by the organization if they don't want to lose those most dear to them.. i believe angus stewart is to be commended for seeing clearly what the wt/jw religion is truly like in practice, and it isn't pretty.. the term "captive organization" is usually used in finance to mean a business front, a legal veil that shields the parent company from liability and having to make big insurance payouts.
for example if the australian branch gets sued and loses, the "wt australia" corporation will pay the amount awarded by the judge to the complainant.
wt obviously must realize now the value of those that tried to enforce change on them.
i think if it wasn't for these people doing what they did wt would be in even more drama now.
so my question is do you ever think wt would voluntarily reinstate and publicly apologize to bill bowen and barbara anderson for all their hard work in bringing reform.
